Comments on: For the first time since 1991, it really sucks to be a Patriots fan http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/ Not Just another WordPress weblog Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:50:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Debbie http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6713 Debbie Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:40:48 +0000 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6713 Hmm.... Grahamzlaw seems to imply there is a difference between fair cheating and illegal cheating! According to Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan, "Our guy keeps a pair of binoculars on their signal-callers every game. With any luck, we have their defensive signals figured out by halftime. Sometimes, by the end of the first quarter." (Ref: http://www.thenoiseboard.com/index.php?showtopic=173191&st=25) Apparently, cheating by binoculars is fair and legal? Again, the real question all Football fans should ask is: Why was only one team fined for alleged spying and cheating when all teams spy and video-tape each other? Smugness is a non-issue, a smokescreen to avoid facing the real issue, Grahamzlaw! Average Players, Grahamzlaw? Do you know how Football is played, Grahamzlaw? From Pop Warner Football to the NFL, every player is told exactly how to play his position by the coaches and the playbook. A great player on one team can become average player on another team just as well as an average player on one team can become a great player for another team. A player has two options, play his position according to the coaches instructions or find another team to play for! After former Cowboys Head Coach Jimmy Johnson admitted a lot of teams were breaking the NFL video rule yesterday on NFL Fox Sunday, Howie Long had the best insight on spy-gate, "The moral outrage that has been expressed by some people within the NFL and some people in the media that covers the NFL, to me rings a little bit shallow. I think its people waiting in the tall grass to kick Bill Belichick in the teeth." -well said, Howie! Hmm…. Grahamzlaw seems to imply there is a difference between fair cheating and illegal cheating! According to Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan, “Our guy keeps a pair of binoculars on their signal-callers every game. With any luck, we have their defensive signals figured out by halftime. Sometimes, by the end of the first quarter.” (Ref: http://www.thenoiseboard.com/index.php?showtopic=173191&st=25) Apparently, cheating by binoculars is fair and legal?

Again, the real question all Football fans should ask is: Why was only one team fined for alleged spying and cheating when all teams spy and video-tape each other? Smugness is a non-issue, a smokescreen to avoid facing the real issue, Grahamzlaw!

Average Players, Grahamzlaw? Do you know how Football is played, Grahamzlaw? From Pop Warner Football to the NFL, every player is told exactly how to play his position by the coaches and the playbook. A great player on one team can become average player on another team just as well as an average player on one team can become a great player for another team. A player has two options, play his position according to the coaches instructions or find another team to play for!

After former Cowboys Head Coach Jimmy Johnson admitted a lot of teams were breaking the NFL video rule yesterday on NFL Fox Sunday, Howie Long had the best insight on spy-gate, “The moral outrage that has been expressed by some people within the NFL and some people in the media that covers the NFL, to me rings a little bit shallow. I think its people waiting in the tall grass to kick Bill Belichick in the teeth.” -well said, Howie!

]]> By: Angela http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6712 Angela Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:49:04 +0000 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6712 The Patriots were guilty of breaking the rules. Edgerian James has sucked since leaving Indy - does that mean Indy cheats? Full-blown cheating? Hardly. The Patriots were guilty of breaking the rules. Edgerian James has sucked since leaving Indy - does that mean Indy cheats? Full-blown cheating? Hardly.

]]> By: grahamzlaw http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6672 grahamzlaw Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:23:55 +0000 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6672 Truth is the Pat's were guilty of cheating. If not then the Pat fans should be sending emails and letters to the NFL offices questioning why they received fines and lost of draft pick or picks. I think the major uproar for non Pats fans is that there is a level of smugness from that coach and his players. These players fail when they leave N.E. so I wonder if these average players don't benefit from some illegal help? When you video tape a team you have no chance of playing in the playoff or in a possible Super Bowl match up, thats cheating. Can't use the video then? Remember that the next time you send that picture message through your phone. I respect Mr. Kraft. I still like Brady. Maroney is going to be a quality back. I hope they don't win another game this year if it means "Bullachit" loses his job. There should be an opening in Cleveland and Notre Dame at the end of the season! Would the Patriot Nation feel the same way if this was Manning and Dungy? Truth is the Pat’s were guilty of cheating. If not then the Pat fans should be sending emails and letters to the NFL offices questioning why they received fines and lost of draft pick or picks. I think the major uproar for non Pats fans is that there is a level of smugness from that coach and his players. These players fail when they leave N.E. so I wonder if these average players don’t benefit from some illegal help? When you video tape a team you have no chance of playing in the playoff or in a possible Super Bowl match up, thats cheating. Can’t use the video then? Remember that the next time you send that picture message through your phone. I respect Mr. Kraft. I still like Brady. Maroney is going to be a quality back. I hope they don’t win another game this year if it means “Bullachit” loses his job. There should be an opening in Cleveland and Notre Dame at the end of the season! Would the Patriot Nation feel the same way if this was Manning and Dungy?

]]> By: Debbie http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6654 Debbie Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:22:08 +0000 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6654 Shame on who??? Who are you referring to with shame in the previous 41 comments, Ari? Who said video taping was illegal?? For that matter, if Bill was pushing the limits as you believe, than what is the difference between the video used in the coaches' booth or a sideline video? Sports Illustrated noted the NFL Commissioner acknowledged the sideline video had NO impact on the game which strongly suggests the video was intended to intimidate the Jets only. Perhaps, the real question to be asked by all Patriots fans is: Who will benefit the most by the undeserved negative press? Shame on who??? Who are you referring to with shame in the previous 41 comments, Ari? Who said video taping was illegal?? For that matter, if Bill was pushing the limits as you believe, than what is the difference between the video used in the coaches’ booth or a sideline video?

Sports Illustrated noted the NFL Commissioner acknowledged the sideline video had NO impact on the game which strongly suggests the video was intended to intimidate the Jets only. Perhaps, the real question to be asked by all Patriots fans is: Who will benefit the most by the undeserved negative press?

]]> By: ari http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6653 ari Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:01:58 +0000 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6653 Shame on you. As a football fan, you have to be honest with yourself: Video taping, per se, is perfectly legal and EVERY team does it. The rules say where you can't record from: the field and the coaches areas-and where you can-anyplace with a roof and walls. The truth is you can video tape in the NFL-just not anywhere you like. This is not cheating, which is the shorthand dump partisans promulgate. Bill was pushing the limits, he knew it, and he should be fined. Not villified. If you don't think video taping the games for signals, formations and anything else-which goes on every game everywhere-then ban videotaping altogether. Don't make Belichick out to be a cheater; what's the cheat? His man was in a nondesignated area? That's all you got? The truth is, Belichick was ratted out by a former employee looking for HIS own advantage and the NFL monkey-pile continues because the Patriots are so damn good and others are so damn envious. Nobody gets this animated over mediocre teams, only great ones. Sorry. Shame on you. As a football fan, you have to be honest with yourself: Video taping, per se, is perfectly legal and EVERY team does it. The rules say where you can’t record from: the field and the coaches areas-and where you can-anyplace with a roof and walls. The truth is you can video tape in the NFL-just not anywhere you like. This is not cheating, which is the shorthand dump partisans promulgate. Bill was pushing the limits, he knew it, and he should be fined. Not villified. If you don’t think video taping the games for signals, formations and anything else-which goes on every game everywhere-then ban videotaping altogether. Don’t make Belichick out to be a cheater; what’s the cheat? His man was in a nondesignated area? That’s all you got? The truth is, Belichick was ratted out by a former employee looking for HIS own advantage and the NFL monkey-pile continues because the Patriots are so damn good and others are so damn envious. Nobody gets this animated over mediocre teams, only great ones. Sorry.

]]> By: Debbie http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6644 Debbie Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:10:15 +0000 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6644 Every Football game in the NFL is orchestrated! Every NFL Coach scrutinizes the play calling of their opponents by watching the past game films in order to prep their own players about the opponents offense and defense in the upcoming game. Filming the play-calling of a team's opponents is most likely widespread throughout the league to send a Robert De Niro "I'll be watching you" hand signal to intimidate the other team only. It is unfortunate for us that the NFL made a example of only the Patriots. When will they catch all the other NFL coaches using the same or similar intimidation practices? Every Football game in the NFL is orchestrated!
Every NFL Coach scrutinizes the play calling of their opponents by watching the past game films in order to prep their own players about the opponents offense and defense in the upcoming game. Filming the play-calling of a team’s opponents is most likely widespread throughout the league to send a Robert De Niro “I’ll be watching you” hand signal to intimidate the other team only.

It is unfortunate for us that the NFL made a example of only the Patriots. When will they catch all the other NFL coaches using the same or similar intimidation practices?

]]> By: Ernie http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6618 Ernie Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:51:29 +0000 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6618 Wow Ang you have a bunch of trolls on your site all of a sudden. That sucks. I would not let it bother you though. I mean look at some of the stuff some of these people are saying, it's not even close to reality. Some of these comments actually make me laugh they are so ridiculous! The Pats are not cheaters. They broke a rule and have been punished and that is it. Dont sweat it. GO PATS. Wow Ang you have a bunch of trolls on your site all of a sudden. That sucks. I would not let it bother you though. I mean look at some of the stuff some of these people are saying, it’s not even close to reality. Some of these comments actually make me laugh they are so ridiculous!

The Pats are not cheaters. They broke a rule and have been punished and that is it. Dont sweat it. GO PATS.

]]> By: gambitNJ69 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6614 gambitNJ69 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:31:18 +0000 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6614 Whatever Rich, go back to rooting for your Joke of a team, cuz thats what they are, an * in the entire NFL Whatever Rich, go back to rooting for your Joke of a team, cuz thats what they are, an * in the entire NFL

]]> By: Rich O http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6613 Rich O Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:28:33 +0000 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6613 Our entire State...as compared to what? Your State which has 2 NFL teams which play their home games there and neither want to admit it so they claim they are from New York? I forget, what's Jersey's team? The New Jersey Generals? Our entire State…as compared to what? Your State which has 2 NFL teams which play their home games there and neither want to admit it so they claim they are from New York? I forget, what’s Jersey’s team? The New Jersey Generals?

]]> By: gambitNJ69 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6612 gambitNJ69 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:24:06 +0000 http://bostonbrat.net/2007/09/12/for-the-first-time-since-1991-it-really-sucks-to-be-a-patriots-fan/#comment-6612 Of course you dont hear the flack anywhere else Angela, its because everyone in your entire State is so enamored with that Joke of a team. Your website is the only real place we can give you the flack that you are missing! ;) Of course you dont hear the flack anywhere else Angela, its because everyone in your entire State is so enamored with that Joke of a team. Your website is the only real place we can give you the flack that you are missing! ;)

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