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You can almost hear the violins playing their sad, sad song

There’s been some talk lately about the SJC’s decision to force StubHub to turn over names of those who sold their Patriots season tickets on the website. I hope you guys realize I am not blindly supporting the Patriots here but this whole thing reeks of bullshit so badly, I can smell it through my computer monitor. The Patriots are 100% right in this matter and sure, it may seem monopolistic and unfair but if you sold your season tickets for a ridiculous markup on StubHub, you have no right to complain and I’m going to tell you why.

First and foremost, just like with Driver’s Licenses and plane tickets, you are NOT entitled to season tickets. Season tickets are a privilege that you were fortunate enough to obtain. Go whine to the 50,000+ people who have been on the waiting list for YEARS and see if they care.

If you are selling your tickets at a huge markup, you are making a profit on a product that is not yours.

For shits and giggles, I went on StubHub tonight looking for tickets to next week’s Patriots-Redskins match up. Among the horribly overpriced tickets, I saw lower level tickets with a face value of $125 being sold for $736! That’s more than $600 of pure profit for the ticket holder. Wow! Assuming those came from a season ticket holder, and he/she sold each game’s tickets for a $600 profit, that’s nearly $5,000 per seat. WOW!

“Diane, a season ticket holder who asked not to be identified for fear of being targeted by the Patriots, said she sold some of her seats on StubHub to help defray the cost of purchasing them.” Poor, Diane. Ya know what? My dad had sweet season tickets (50 yard line, lower level, 10 rows back) for 25 years and when he couldn’t afford them anymore, he gave them up. Tough shit.

“Mike, another season ticket holder who attempted to sell tickets on StubHub and requested anonymity, said he didn’t appreciate the Patriots going to court to obtain private information about him.” Let me get this straight – You’re concerned about the Patriots receiving the same exact private information that you already submitted to them when you purchased your season tickets? Are you serious?

Since I’ve never actually had season tickets, I decided to ask my dad his thoughts. A Patriots season ticket holder for 25 years, my dad and his uncle held three seats since the opening of Schaffer Stadium. I figured, if anyone knows what it’s like to be a season ticket holder, it’s my dad.

Me: “So Dad, what do you think about this whole ticket business?”

Dad: “They’re scalpers. Plain and simple.”

If you want to sell your tickets, fine. If you want to sell your tickets for well above the face value, fine. But don’t get upset when you get in trouble for doing so. Don’t try and make yourself look like the good guy being picked on by the giant. It’s illegal and it’s unfair to people who want to go to games but aren’t lucky enough to have season tickets and rich enough to afford your ridiculous markup.

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9 Comments

  1. Jonathan Kraft mentioned on Sunday’s pre-game that Mass law states that you can’t re-sell tickets for more than 2 dollars over face value.

    What’s 736 minus 2?

  2. Jonathan

    I payed $80 for two Daughtry tix that were orginally $30; I think I deserve pats tix just for willing to look for Daughtry tix.

  3. I agree that these people should not be “scalping” their tickets like this, but at the same time they paid for the tickets so the tickets to that game are theirs so in that respect they should be able to sell them.

    I wonder how many of these people have season tickets and only go to 1 or 2 games and sell rest compared to people that go to all the games and sell the tickets for the 1 or 2 games that they can’t attend.

  4. Ernie, I heard Jonathan Kraft talking about it, too, although his explanation was kind of stupid. From what my dad tells me about attending games in the 80s, I know they’ve done an excellent job cleaning up the stadium but I don’t think selling your tickets means a bunch of riff raff will show up. All he needs to say is there is a contract on the back of the ticket. Broken contract = loss of season tickets.

    DAUGHTRY?!

  5. Nick, there’s a difference between selling your tickets and selling them for 600% of face value, especially when selling them for 600% of face value is against the law.

    I really don’t have any problem with someone selling their extra/unused tickets, but there’s a limit to how much insanity one should be forced to endure.

  6. Nick, paying for the tickets is not a transfer of ownership. Seems like it would be, but its not. The team (any team) is the ultimate owner of the ticket and is therefore able to revoke any ticket at any time.

  7. Fornya, that to me is an interesting concept. I’m not expert on how this all works or if there are other things like this around, but how is it not a transfer of ownership? I mean, over the long term I can understand it, but on a game by game basis I don’t quite follow.

    The ticket is basically a piece of paper that gives the ticket holder permission to sit in a given seat (which is the property of the team/stadium/etc) for a specific game. If someone pays for that ticket, isn’t the permission to sit in that seat for that game theirs? By selling that ticket, they are essentially passing that permission on to someone else.

    I think paying for a ticket would have to be considered a transfer of ownership (ownership of the permission to sit in that seat for that game) or else you would be paying for something and not getting anything for it. Same as renting a car or apartment or movie is giving you ownership of that item for the specified period of time. It’s not complete ownership, but more the right to use. If I rent a movie from Blockbuster, would they care if someone gave me a few bucks to borrow it if I still returned it on time?

    I’m not trying to defend anyone here, just better understand Fornya’s comment.

  8. Tape, I agree that the markup is rediculous. Although, we do have a free economy where something is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it (supply and demand and blah blah blah). The legal issue is also something that definitely needs to be looked at.

    While selling extra/unused tickets (within legal limits) might be looked at as not being a bad thing, I think there is definitely a difference between someone who has season tickets to go to 1 or 2 games and the person who has season tickets that has 1 or 2 that they can’t make it to. In many cases, there are likely other ways to make sure these tickets get used (donate them to a raffle at your church or give them to a co-worker) without resorting to selling them.

  9. Be careful when dealing with StubHub. They sold two expensive invalid tickets to me for a final Yankees game. I tried to complain. When I called from the venue the call was on hold for 20 minutes. Could they have found me tickets right behind 3rd base (they say they will guarantee and replace the tickets with similar) – no. How could they for a final game in this park. Read my blog. Tell me your story at: coloradojimh@yahoo.com

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